Stop pitching. If apple were going to give you a job it would have happened by now.

→ Posted by: Jim at December 13, 2003 1:28 AM

Interesting idea, not that far removed from one of the visions of the semantic web.

→ Posted by: Ian Forrester at December 13, 2003 2:33 AM

Seems like a sort of similar concept to some of the new "smart houses". They can play a song and have a certain lighting level and stuff, then when you leave the room and go into another room, the music will follow you on the speakers in the new room, etc.

→ Posted by: Bryan at December 13, 2003 5:18 AM

Eh... too much extra cost, not enough functionality. You could always try leaving your headphones on =P

→ Posted by: Dag at December 13, 2003 5:56 AM

Bluetooth isn't all that expensive... but, fitting it into the iPod... now, that's something alltogether different! But, I really think this idea is right down the middle of what Jobs' idea of the hub of our digital life is all about! Good luck, however, in getting the props from the conglomerate if they add the feature in the future.

→ Posted by: Phillip Swindall at December 13, 2003 9:30 AM

I don't think cost is strictly relevant, since - you know - all things drop in price in time. And as for size - they can fit bluetooth into quite tiny mobile phones, so I'm not sure that's an issue either. Also people have been talking about Bluetooth-enabled iPods for quite a while and it seems likely that they're coming - either in the form of add-ons or integrated into the device itself. Check out: the Register, XTreme Mac and news about the Bluetooth enabled Toshiba Hard Disks. Mostly they're talking about ways of connecting headphones or remote controls to devices, but there's no reason they couldn't extend it.

→ Posted by: Tom Coates at December 13, 2003 11:29 AM

This is one of the greatest iPod ideas I have ever read. Sure I have heard about wireless sync of songs and playlists, but nothing to the extent of yours. Brilliant. I will think about it every time I am pulling my coat on and trying to get my iPod to the same point as I head out to walk to school.

Fingers crossed for that.

→ Posted by: J2 at December 13, 2003 1:04 PM

Hot damn, the first time that happened, you'd wet yourself. Grade A genius idea. If not in the iPod, then car stereos.

→ Posted by: Ben Hammersley at December 13, 2003 4:31 PM

Why not have it configurable to sync automatically when the iPod comes into range? No user intervention required.

→ Posted by: Drew McLellan at December 13, 2003 9:10 PM

Imagine that you are listening to a talk about the tendency for the rate of profit to fall, then you arrive home and your roomate is asleep on the sofa and then suddenly they are woken up by the Marxist MP3 you have been listening to.

→ Posted by: Josh at December 14, 2003 12:17 AM

I think that's why you have you make it something that you decide to transition to rather than something that's done automatically.

→ Posted by: Tom Coates at December 14, 2003 1:33 AM

The specific idea detailed above is a bit daft and sci-fi, sort of akin to having robot slaves doing the housework, but generally there is mileage in having a wi-fi or Bluetooth iPod. I'd like to see the iPod sync over a wireless network to load up with tracks; share files with other local iPods; and using it as a remote control for a bigger home music collection also makes sense.

→ Posted by: joe gibson at December 14, 2003 3:29 PM

That would be an itrip then ;)

→ Posted by: Jem Stone at December 14, 2003 10:34 PM

Well I don't think it's particularly daft (in that this kind of continuity of experience seems to be something that's actually desirable if we can find a mechanism that makes it happen simply and elegantly) or sci-fi (in that you could probably make it happen with a tiny piece of information transferral and a few bloody Applescripts). And - to be fair - robot slaves are already doing the housework of Matt Jones who has recently purchased a Roomba. As to your suggestions, the local data syncing aspect is quite likely to happen, the sharing with other local iPods would work perfectly well too (it's just an extension of the stuff that iTunes does already so there's a precedent there) and the remote control thing appeals to me, but - ironically - might be considered a bit of a confusion of function unless based on the metaphor of the same music being playable in different places - which of course leads back to some kind of interaction in which you can pick up and carry out - or put down in your home - whatever particular feed of music you happened to be listening to at that point in time. That is, of course, what I was suggesting in the first place.

→ Posted by: Tom Coates at December 14, 2003 10:51 PM

Your idea is so clearly radical and common sense at the same time that it must be implemented: continuity of experience, data following the person instead of the machine, and a common simple interface between you and your enjoyment of your passive activity.
You realize, you must patent this!

→ Posted by: Camilo at December 16, 2003 2:28 AM

Damn, sorry, meant to post this over the weekend: MIT's Progect Oxygen already has code to do something very similar to what you want. See: http://oxygen.lcs.mit.edu/Overview.html - the videos down the bottom of the page, either the "Cricket" one or the "MetaGlue" one. I was kind of put off because it's mostly the same old active-badge magic that they've been playing with at UCL and other places for over a decade, but the music-player tricks are cool.

→ Posted by: Yoz at December 17, 2003 1:52 AM

I already do the same thing by putting my iPod in the cradle connected to my stereo.. although I would like it this way as well, but I think doing it through the standard firewire cord would be fine instead of needing bluetooth..

→ Posted by: Sam Walker at December 17, 2003 6:38 AM

The problem is, is that your stereo is connected to your computer, and not the inline-port on your iPod base. My configuration has two sets of speakers, but only because of been too lazy to explore splitting my stereo speakers. But one set of speakers are connected to the inline jack of my iPod stand, the other to my stereo. When I come home, I take my iPod out of my pocket, with headphones on, and place into my iPod base, the current song keeps playing in both my headphones and now my speakers. I then just remove my headphones. If I decide, I want surround sound, then I turn on my stereo and just plug-in my iTrip. It then streams my music to the stereo speakers. Its all rather seemless, with no worries about syncing, or fading music in and out at the right time. The biggest issue is turning my stereo on and off, since I hate that background buzz, that happens when I'm not actually streaming music to it.

In this regard, the best decision I made was not to have the iPod base station receive its charge from the computer. Since that always interrupts the flow of music when your computers takes over the iPod. So no I deliberately sync my iPod to my computer, at least once a week, but occasionally more often--typically after new music purchases, or if I've added a batch of new contacts or meetings. Otherwise my set-up keeps the iPod as the primary music source, and with the new inline jack, the iTrip, and or the PowerWave, the music keeps playing freely without a skip from one source to another.

Though bluetooth iPod capabilities would be nice so if I'm on my latop at the couch, I could use my laptop to jump playlists. Or to use Bluetooth to stream data from the iPod to Synergy or my laptop. I love have the album art, song, album, artist, and rating flash on my screen. i've noticed that with Smart playlist I frequently run into music, I didn't realize I had, and don't immediately recognize.

→ Posted by: allgood2 at December 18, 2003 3:58 PM

and then, as you are about to enter your house, your neighbour's local copy of iTunes powers up, selects the same tune you're currently listening to, and confuses the hell out of them.

At the same time, your iPod gradually fades the volume out, convincing you that you need to put it on charge.

→ Posted by: Paul Holmes at December 22, 2003 12:41 PM

You can do this already Coates:

1. Plug your i-Pod dock into your stereo.
2. As your enter your flat pluck your i-Pod from your pocket and slip it into the dock.
3. The song you were listennig to will continue uninterupted.

Granted, it doesn't have the sexy wireless implementation of your idea but it works and it's *now*.

Word.
DC

→ Posted by: Dave Collyer at February 3, 2004 5:54 PM

I gratefully received an iPod for my birthday. The problem is that ever since I installed iTunes etc. I have noticed a problem with my main speakers not muting when I plug in my headphones into the headphone jack on my PC. Therefore I have sound coming out of my speakers and my headphones at the same time. I have since contacted Dell support who sent an engineer out yesterday to replace the headphone port, still unresolved. Apple support told me that it is very unlikely it is their software. Does anyone have any ideas?

→ Posted by: Adrian at October 22, 2005 11:11 AM

I think having a s/w that reads out books (pdf's or doc's) on an ipod wouild be a good idea.

→ Posted by: Dilip at November 14, 2005 12:35 PM

I'm a first time iPod user - I bought the new 5G (video). I'm using the calender (ICal) on my Mac and syncing it to Ipod. I also use a Mac at work.
Is it possible to 'up' sync from ipod to my work mac so that all my contacts and ical info can be viewed at work. I know if I got a .Mac acciunt I could do all this - but this could save me some money...

→ Posted by: Clint at January 18, 2006 11:40 PM

The iPod must have cross fade functions to survive. If Apple doesn't listen then someone else will cease this... dont let all the good work go to waste Mr Jobs!!

→ Posted by: Johnny S at August 5, 2006 4:59 PM

I was told yesterday at the Apple store that Ipods will never have crossfade. I had to disagree with the store clerk. If my iBook were a little saller, it would almost be a friggen iPod. I'm waiting for crossfade to arriver on the iPod before I upgrade to a new iPod and that's all there is to it!

→ Posted by: Mark Shrader at January 5, 2007 3:17 PM